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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Suppressed&#8221; Carlin report based on Patrick Michaels attack on EPA</title>
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		<title>By: MapleLeaf</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MapleLeaf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good grief,  no wonder CRU scientists (present and past) have had death threats.  The lunatic fringe is scary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief,  no wonder CRU scientists (present and past) have had death threats.  The lunatic fringe is scary.</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Jauregui</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-1300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John A. Jauregui]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you angry about this obvious fraud and the national media&#039;s complicity in the cover-up, misinformation, reframing and misdirection of the issue?   Take responsibility and take action.  Stop all donations to the political party(s) responsible for this fraud.  Stop donations to all environmental groups which funded this Global Warming propaganda campaign with our money, especially The Environmental Defense Fund.  START donations to Oklahoma’s Senator Inhofe, the only politician to stand firmly against this obvious government/media coordinated information operation (propaganda) targeted at its own people.   People that government leaders and employees are sworn to protect.   Write your state and federal representatives demanding wall to wall investigations of government sponsored funding and coordination of this and related propaganda campaigns and demand indictments of those responsible.  Write your state and federal Attorneys General demanding Al Gore and others conducting Global Warming/Climate Change racketeering and mail fraud operations be brought to justice, indicted, tried, convicted and jailed.  That’s what I have done in response to this outrageous violation of the public trust.  Think of the consequences if you do nothing!  For one, the UK is becoming the poster child for George Orwell’s “1984” and the US government’s sponsorship of this worldwide Global Warming propaganda campaign puts it in a class with the failed Soviet Union’s relentless violation of the basic human right to truthful government generated information.  Given ClimateGate’s burgeoning revelations of outrageous government misconduct and massive covert misinformation, what are the chances that this Administration’s National Health Care sales campaign is anywhere near to the truth?

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[DC: I don&#039;t usually permit these sorts of patently false accusations, but I&#039;m permitting this rant this one time, so that folks can understand what rational people are up against.

It&#039;s obvious that the only &quot;cover-up, misinformation, reframing and misdirection of the issue&quot; is being perpetrated by the usual suspects who have been doing this for years: PR disinformation specialists like Marc Morano, Tom Harris and the CeI team, the unqualified &quot;scientists&quot; who co-operate with them and the hidden fossil-fuel interests supporting all of this. Then of course we have politicians like Inhofe and media like FoxNews, WSJ and National Post who are essentially using this propganda to conduct a war on science and reason.]&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you angry about this obvious fraud and the national media&#8217;s complicity in the cover-up, misinformation, reframing and misdirection of the issue?   Take responsibility and take action.  Stop all donations to the political party(s) responsible for this fraud.  Stop donations to all environmental groups which funded this Global Warming propaganda campaign with our money, especially The Environmental Defense Fund.  START donations to Oklahoma’s Senator Inhofe, the only politician to stand firmly against this obvious government/media coordinated information operation (propaganda) targeted at its own people.   People that government leaders and employees are sworn to protect.   Write your state and federal representatives demanding wall to wall investigations of government sponsored funding and coordination of this and related propaganda campaigns and demand indictments of those responsible.  Write your state and federal Attorneys General demanding Al Gore and others conducting Global Warming/Climate Change racketeering and mail fraud operations be brought to justice, indicted, tried, convicted and jailed.  That’s what I have done in response to this outrageous violation of the public trust.  Think of the consequences if you do nothing!  For one, the UK is becoming the poster child for George Orwell’s “1984” and the US government’s sponsorship of this worldwide Global Warming propaganda campaign puts it in a class with the failed Soviet Union’s relentless violation of the basic human right to truthful government generated information.  Given ClimateGate’s burgeoning revelations of outrageous government misconduct and massive covert misinformation, what are the chances that this Administration’s National Health Care sales campaign is anywhere near to the truth?</p>
<p><em><strong>[DC: I don't usually permit these sorts of patently false accusations, but I'm permitting this rant this one time, so that folks can understand what rational people are up against.</p>
<p>It's obvious that the only "cover-up, misinformation, reframing and misdirection of the issue" is being perpetrated by the usual suspects who have been doing this for years: PR disinformation specialists like Marc Morano, Tom Harris and the CeI team, the unqualified "scientists" who co-operate with them and the hidden fossil-fuel interests supporting all of this. Then of course we have politicians like Inhofe and media like FoxNews, WSJ and National Post who are essentially using this propganda to conduct a war on science and reason.]</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: John Broder of NYT: The EPA fights back on Carlin &#8220;suppression&#8221; &#171; Deep Climate</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Broder of NYT: The EPA fights back on Carlin &#8220;suppression&#8221; &#171; Deep Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] – one in which Patrick Michaels happened to have played a large, if unwitting, role – namely the so-called suppression of the EPA’s Alan [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] – one in which Patrick Michaels happened to have played a large, if unwitting, role – namely the so-called suppression of the EPA’s Alan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NYT&#8217;s Andy Revkin backtracks (but not nearly enough) &#171; Deep Climate</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NYT&#8217;s Andy Revkin backtracks (but not nearly enough) &#171; Deep Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Even better would be an investigation, or at least acknowledgment, of the perfidy of phony science disinformation campaigns based on such memes, such as the  imminent Monckton tour of Canada, sponsored by the Friends of Science. Or come to that, how about looking at the farce playing out in Washington &#8211; one in which Patrick Michaels happened to have played a large, if unwitting, role &#8211; namely the so-called suppression of the EPA&#8217;s Alan Carlin. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Even better would be an investigation, or at least acknowledgment, of the perfidy of phony science disinformation campaigns based on such memes, such as the  imminent Monckton tour of Canada, sponsored by the Friends of Science. Or come to that, how about looking at the farce playing out in Washington &#8211; one in which Patrick Michaels happened to have played a large, if unwitting, role &#8211; namely the so-called suppression of the EPA&#8217;s Alan Carlin. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dropping the P-Bomb &#171; Deep Climate</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dropping the P-Bomb &#171; Deep Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a definitive conclusion as to whether the plagiarism was deliberate or not. That all changed when I discovered several more unattributed swathes, mainly from Patrick Michaels&#8217; World Climate Repo..., all lightly edited so as to appear to be Carlin&#8217;s original [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a definitive conclusion as to whether the plagiarism was deliberate or not. That all changed when I discovered several more unattributed swathes, mainly from Patrick Michaels&#8217; World Climate Repo&#8230;, all lightly edited so as to appear to be Carlin&#8217;s original [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Pohanka</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Pohanka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a note to the moderator.

I was merely reporting what Carlin said in his report so that any participants in this blog could for themselves decide what the reality is.

If you think Carlin is a puppet of the CEI or Michaels, I dont see any truth in this.

&lt;em&gt;[DC: Carlin actually said very little of his own in the report. All of the assertions you paraphrase came from &quot;analysis&quot; at blogs like Patrick Michaels&#039; World Climate Report or astroturf groups like Friends of Science, most of it directly lifted.

If you want to discuss the specific Michaels/Carlin assertions discussed in this post, go right ahead. But keep it short and to the point. These assertions include:
- Supposed &quot;out of date&quot; findings from the IPCC and USCCP reports
- Supposed decline in global temperature (already debunked dozens of times)
- Supposed lack of endangerment from anthropogenic global warming imputed from past improvements in measures of U.S. health and welfare

Finally, I&#039;ve never stated or implied that Carlin is a &quot;puppet&quot; of Patrick Michaels. In fact, it&#039;s quite probable that Michaels was unaware of Carlin&#039;s massive plagiarism of his work. As for CEI, there remain a number of unresolved questions and coincidences. But there is strong evidence that CEI played a key role behind the scenes of Carlin&#039;s interviews at FoxNews. I&#039;ll be posting more on this at some point.]&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a note to the moderator.</p>
<p>I was merely reporting what Carlin said in his report so that any participants in this blog could for themselves decide what the reality is.</p>
<p>If you think Carlin is a puppet of the CEI or Michaels, I dont see any truth in this.</p>
<p><em>[DC: Carlin actually said very little of his own in the report. All of the assertions you paraphrase came from "analysis" at blogs like Patrick Michaels' World Climate Report or astroturf groups like Friends of Science, most of it directly lifted.</p>
<p>If you want to discuss the specific Michaels/Carlin assertions discussed in this post, go right ahead. But keep it short and to the point. These assertions include:<br />
- Supposed "out of date" findings from the IPCC and USCCP reports<br />
- Supposed decline in global temperature (already debunked dozens of times)<br />
- Supposed lack of endangerment from anthropogenic global warming imputed from past improvements in measures of U.S. health and welfare</p>
<p>Finally, I've never stated or implied that Carlin is a "puppet" of Patrick Michaels. In fact, it's quite probable that Michaels was unaware of Carlin's massive plagiarism of his work. As for CEI, there remain a number of unresolved questions and coincidences. But there is strong evidence that CEI played a key role behind the scenes of Carlin's interviews at FoxNews. I'll be posting more on this at some point.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: John A. Jauregui</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John A. Jauregui]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;[DC : This question is regarding a response to an off-topic comment. It should be posted at the proper thread (Unthreaded #1 ).]&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: John A. Jauregui</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John A. Jauregui]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;[DC: Comment removed. This off-topic comment was already moved once to Unthreaded #1. It&#039;s comment #10 there].&lt;/em&gt;
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		<title>By: Geoff Pohanka</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Pohanka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;[DC: Off topic remark and link removed to Unthreaded, per comment policy.]&lt;/strong&gt;

Also, Carlin hit the nail right on its head. 

Governments have paid too little attention to the science of global warming and have tended to accept the findings reached by outside groups. He says the EPA has not made a careful review of them and is likely to be blaimed for this later.

His findings are based on the best science, in the sense that they most closely correspond to available observations.

Global temperatures have declined for 11 years. The PDO and AMO have turned negative. Atlantic hurricane behavior has changed (there are fewer hurricanes). Greenland ice is not melting like some say it is. It has been observed that water vapor is not a positive feedback, it is negative. The IPCC has incorrectly dismissed the impact of solar variability on temperatures. Research suggests that solar variability accounts for up to 68% of the increase in earths temperatures with strong association between solar sunspots/irradiance and global temperature fluctuations.

Surface temperature measurement is not accurate due to the growth of urban areas. Satellite records of temperature do not show the same temperature increase as land based sensors.

Almost all fluctiations in temperature appear to be due to natural causes and not human caused pollution as defined by the clear air act.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[DC: All of these assertions have been debunked over and over. Every one of them is either based on non-peer-reviewed &quot;science&quot; or else gross misinterpretations of published science. 

For example, &quot;Greenland ice is not melting like some say it is&quot; (whatever that means). I guess you &lt;a href=&quot;http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/28/epas-alan-carlin-channels-pat-michaels-and-the-friends-of-science/#comment-116&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;missed this comment&lt;/a&gt; from the reviewer of the Greenland ice melt paper by Van de Wal et al. That&#039;s the paper that was the subject of a distorted &quot;analysis&quot; in Patrick Michaels&#039; World Climate Report (and then lifted verbatim by Carlin in his report).

&lt;blockquote&gt;The acceleration to worry about is from changes in the calving front, and the resultant retreat and acceleration that has been observed on almost all Greenland marine terminating outlet glaciers.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/04/moulins-calving-fronts-and-greenland-outlet-glacier-acceleration  ]/&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

I suspect none of you have read his report. He is merely trying to protect his agency from making a terrible mistake. You people label him as senile, you dont even know him, you just dont like what he says.

Why not read his report first. Maybe you will learn something.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[DC: Protecting the EPA from a &quot;terrible mistake&quot;? You must be joking. Carlin&#039;s co-operation with the CEI&#039;s attack on the EPA, including his error-laden interviews on FoxNews, appear to be calculated to provide maximum embarrassment to the EPA.

Links for the draft version and final versions are given above. It is unnecessary to repeat them. Didn&#039;t you bother reading the post? And, yes, I have read Carlin&#039;s report. Several times, if you include re-reading all the stuff he copied in its original form by Patrick Michaels and the others.

If you post any more irrelevant nonsense like the above tripe, I&#039;ll move it to Unthreaded where it belongs. I&#039;m very patient and polite but you are fast wearing out your welcome.]&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[DC: Off topic remark and link removed to Unthreaded, per comment policy.]</strong></p>
<p>Also, Carlin hit the nail right on its head. </p>
<p>Governments have paid too little attention to the science of global warming and have tended to accept the findings reached by outside groups. He says the EPA has not made a careful review of them and is likely to be blaimed for this later.</p>
<p>His findings are based on the best science, in the sense that they most closely correspond to available observations.</p>
<p>Global temperatures have declined for 11 years. The PDO and AMO have turned negative. Atlantic hurricane behavior has changed (there are fewer hurricanes). Greenland ice is not melting like some say it is. It has been observed that water vapor is not a positive feedback, it is negative. The IPCC has incorrectly dismissed the impact of solar variability on temperatures. Research suggests that solar variability accounts for up to 68% of the increase in earths temperatures with strong association between solar sunspots/irradiance and global temperature fluctuations.</p>
<p>Surface temperature measurement is not accurate due to the growth of urban areas. Satellite records of temperature do not show the same temperature increase as land based sensors.</p>
<p>Almost all fluctiations in temperature appear to be due to natural causes and not human caused pollution as defined by the clear air act.</p>
<p><em><strong>[DC: All of these assertions have been debunked over and over. Every one of them is either based on non-peer-reviewed "science" or else gross misinterpretations of published science. </p>
<p>For example, "Greenland ice is not melting like some say it is" (whatever that means). I guess you <a href="http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/28/epas-alan-carlin-channels-pat-michaels-and-the-friends-of-science/#comment-116" rel="nofollow">missed this comment</a> from the reviewer of the Greenland ice melt paper by Van de Wal et al. That's the paper that was the subject of a distorted "analysis" in Patrick Michaels' World Climate Report (and then lifted verbatim by Carlin in his report).</p>
<blockquote><p>The acceleration to worry about is from changes in the calving front, and the resultant retreat and acceleration that has been observed on almost all Greenland marine terminating outlet glaciers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/04/moulins-calving-fronts-and-greenland-outlet-glacier-acceleration" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/04/moulins-calving-fronts-and-greenland-outlet-glacier-acceleration</a>  ]/</p></blockquote>
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<p>I suspect none of you have read his report. He is merely trying to protect his agency from making a terrible mistake. You people label him as senile, you dont even know him, you just dont like what he says.</p>
<p>Why not read his report first. Maybe you will learn something.</p>
<p><em><strong>[DC: Protecting the EPA from a "terrible mistake"? You must be joking. Carlin's co-operation with the CEI's attack on the EPA, including his error-laden interviews on FoxNews, appear to be calculated to provide maximum embarrassment to the EPA.</p>
<p>Links for the draft version and final versions are given above. It is unnecessary to repeat them. Didn't you bother reading the post? And, yes, I have read Carlin's report. Several times, if you include re-reading all the stuff he copied in its original form by Patrick Michaels and the others.</p>
<p>If you post any more irrelevant nonsense like the above tripe, I'll move it to Unthreaded where it belongs. I'm very patient and polite but you are fast wearing out your welcome.]</strong></em></p>
<p>GP</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice work, DC.  My speculation re Carlin is that he&#039;s very close to retirement and is suffering from some sort of age-related mental problem, and that his superiors are tolerating him until he can be shoved out the door.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, DC.  My speculation re Carlin is that he&#8217;s very close to retirement and is suffering from some sort of age-related mental problem, and that his superiors are tolerating him until he can be shoved out the door.</p>
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