The sad thing is, you could do so yourself, easily — and would, if you were an honest person. The data is out there, in abundance.

Prove it. Your false claims are repetitive and you refuse to substantiate them.

[DC: Get a grip. For example, the above is one of many posts on the manifestly false claim, made by Plimer and others, that 1934 was the warmest year in the global temperature record. It clearly was not the warmest year; in fact, almost all years from 1998 on were warmer.

If you have a substantive point to make on this specific issue, make it. Otherwise your comments may earn a well-deserved oblivion.]

On the other hand, the commenter Rothbard made an accusation and did not even mention which statement was a “lie”, let alone why he considered it to be. That is about wholly unsubstantiated as you can get.

But I’m really not interested in extended discussion of these peripheral meta-issues. There will be tighter moderation from here on in. Thanks!

Well don’t just sit there dripping in faux-mystery. Tell us your unique description of the word “unsubstantiated” The point is that Plimer substantiates his claims …. and yet Deep Climate refuses point blank to do so.

That’s what happens when one party to the debate Gish Gallops and avoids addressing a question. Using Gish Gallop is far more ignorant than the other insisting on a straight answer to a straight question. Monbiot explains it…

Plimer went off at a tangent, starting to list the numbers and kinds of submarine volcanoes. This, I soon found, was a characteristic tactic: when faced with a tricky situation, he starts throwing out random facts. I pointed out that he had been told many times that the USGS figures include submarine volcanoes: he was making a claim on national television that he knew to be wrong.

Tony Jones raised another of the questions I had tried to put to Plimer: the professor has stated that the Met Office’s Hadley Centre has shown that warming stopped in 1998. Where, Jones asked, does the Hadley Centre say that? Again the random facts came thick and fast: there are four major centres that measure temperature. Some of them use thermometers. (Would you believe it?) Some use radiosondes, some use satellites. And if you look at page 481 of my book, you’ll find that I nailed the University of East Anglia, which is actually just a few yards down the road from where Monbiot lives, and, and …

It was a weird form of free association, which might have contained answers to any number of questions – but not the one he was asked.

http://www.monbiot.com/2009/12/17/showdown-with-plimer/

[DC: Sorry, false and unsubstantiated accusations are not allowed here. Even when they are against me. Please refrain from posting any more. Thanks! ]

The real problem is that ABC continues to give unqualified commentators ample room even though they have been caught in falsehoods over and over again.

As for Plimer’s so-called “integrity”, Plimer and ABC have been less than transparent about his connection to various mining companies and bogus science groups like the International Science Coalition, which are simply propaganda fronts for anti-AGW forces.